/personal/why i moved away from discord to matrix

the least worst alternative at the moment

the incoming discord ipo and further big brotherification of the app finally got me to fully ditch it
i was writing out a whole thing about alternatives but this person kinda said almost all my thoughts already
basically, element/matrix isn’t great & isn’t being improved at a reasonable rate, but it’s the best we have right now

some additional thoughts about matrix:

  • there is a really good guide/explanation/comparison to discord here
  • if you use the default homeserver, that server will get (and keep) a lot of metadata as you use matrix
  • element does not yet have working screensharing with sound on linux but it is being worked on (slowly)
  • sometimes (fairly rarely) when switching devices, messages will show as unencryptable
  • i didn’t personally struggle to move people i wanted to talk to over for the most part
  • joining a call seems to turn on your camera by default unless i did something weird - i don’t love that
  • the max archive size for a chat/room log is 2gb on the element app which is fine for text but easy to hit with images
  • consider using [continuwuity] if you want to self host a server and it fits your usecase
    • if you self host be aware that the content of any room any of your users connects to will be copied to your server
      • this is a huge liability risk that you should fully understand before self hosting for anyone beyond yourself
      • unless you disable federation
        • (but then the accounts on your server will only be able to interact with rooms and users on your server)
      • consider using an implementation which auto deletes history from other servers at a short & regular interval
         

other thoughts:

  • i am less optimistic about stoat than the author i linked to
    • it’s a project i have been following for ~a couple years
      • i hope it gets there, but it isn’t nearly there yet
    • their communication and decisions strike me as naive and inexperienced
    • the website appears possibly vibecoded which i don’t love
      • (unless the founder’s name is ‘insert’)
    • on the upside, tied with fluxer for having a ui that will be familiar to discord users
      • has a history of development, unlike fluxer
      • similar features currently (as well as similar planned features)

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